been a long time e2 box user, had most of the zegmmas. i moved to a octagon SF8008 4k ( the original not supreme which has iffy tuners if i read correctly?) still a good box and a new AB pulse SE 4 k, as a bit higher spec & cost box. all from world of satellite, i would go with one of theses or like theses as all builds are available for them, just my two pence worth